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Nángoröth
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2010, 04:37:18 pm »

are you looking to get the tier equipment from frost badges? It's mostly best in slot stuff as well as providing the 2 part bonus which is a nice boost for ret paladins, also the libram and trinket from frost badges are useful, best get grinding the dailies for them Tongue
Oh hell yes i am doing them everyday, also the weeklies Tongue i really need that tier set bonus tho and the libram+trinket would be nice aswell, im doing my best!

regarding talents, I would have probably maxed pursuit of justice instead of divine intellect, although 4 points in divine intellect is fine if you find yourself having a lot of mana problems.
Not so many mana problems now, only when there is no time to drink after a fight it comes handy.
for glyphs, crusader strike is already fairly cheap to cast compared to other spells, I don't really think the glyph for it is that useful, either exorcism if you have enough expertise, or vengeance if you are not close to the cap.
I'd rather go for expertise then Smiley

Some last info wanted:

what is the hit cap for a ret paladin, what should this also be if we always have a draenei present in the melee group?
8% without a draenei, 7% with, Heroic Presence gives 1% extra.
what expertise cap should you be looking for and how important is this?
214 Expertise rating is the expertise cap of 6.5% for a raid boss, so it's very good. But i never missed  (or blocked, parried, dodged) on bosses, might come because i'm pretty much overcapped. It's still important.

and finally, what spell prioritisation and seal should you be using for:
single target (boss on its own) Single target: Divine Storm->Crusader Strike->Consecration->Exorcism->Judgement of Vengeance+Wisdom (And pop some Cooldowns)
multiple targets (large group of trash) Multiple Targets: Seal of Command. Divine Storm->Consecration->Crusader Strike->Exorcism->Judgement of Command+Wisdom
single target with restricted aoe (boss with adds where you do not want to agro the adds)

this info would be handy in the format of consecration->exorcism->crusader strike->divine storm->judgement with seal of justice but with the order/seal changed for each Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2010, 05:58:25 pm »

looks ok, I would disagree on a few things though:

expertise and hit over the cap are near worthless, with the current expertise you have (28) and the cap being 26, why would you pick the glyph to push it up to 38? at the moment you would be better swapping the crusader strike to exorcism. This also means you might find lower ilevel gear can be better if it means you swap out hit for something more useful like crit.

for the spell prioritisation, I would always put judgement first, rest of the order seems ok.

you missed out the last question (single target with restricted aoe), it might be better to give an explaination rather than a list, for example:

How would you adjust the prioritisation on saurfang so you achieve max output without risking pulling the blood beasts as they spawn?
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2010, 06:24:36 pm »

looks ok, I would disagree on a few things though:

expertise and hit over the cap are near worthless, with the current expertise you have (28) and the cap being 26, why would you pick the glyph to push it up to 38? at the moment you would be better swapping the crusader strike to exorcism. This also means you might find lower ilevel gear can be better if it means you swap out hit for something more useful like crit.

for the spell prioritisation, I would always put judgement first, rest of the order seems ok.

you missed out the last question (single target with restricted aoe), it might be better to give an explaination rather than a list, for example:

How would you adjust the prioritisation on saurfang so you achieve max output without risking pulling the blood beasts as they spawn?

Count that as a misunderstanding from me, sorry!

For those fights i am still using divine storm but then with a limited amount of times, because when the blood beasts spawn i cannot use it, but if they are dead i can still use my skills.
As for other bosses i will do the same, if it's possible.
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2010, 12:12:47 pm »

Thanks for answering questions so far, continue doing so should anymore be asked. My fellow CL is away for a few days at which point we will be making a decison on the next trialist we will be taking on.  I will be in touch to let you know either way.
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2010, 02:07:21 pm »

Talked to ingame, will keep application on hold and will be reconsidered should another melee spot become available.
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« Reply #20 on: Today at 01:16:38 pm »

Post updated:

The mining profession is swapped by Jewelcrafting now, also skill level 450 Smiley
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